We were activists who didn’t necessarily know it all the time. It wasn’t just about me, it was about that little girl or boy in the stands. There was so much purpose inside what I was doing. How do you feel?Ībby Wambach: You know, I was so nervous about retiring from soccer. Vanity Fair: It’s been a year since you launched your podcast, We Can Do Hard Things. They also give a glimpse at one of their upcoming projects: the TV adaptation of Doyle’s novel Untamed. Vanity Fair chatted with the duo about the show’s evolution, vulnerability, and systemic oppression. In it, Doyle, Wambach, and Doyle’s sister Amanda (known as “Sister”) bring on guests like ALOK, Chanel Miller, Megan Rapinoe, Gabrielle Union, and Tarana Burke to tackle stories of identity, activism, sex, navigating trauma, and everything in between. Wednesday marks one year since that devotion fueled the launch of their podcast, We Can Do Hard Things. Whether they’re discussing the intentional, politically driven design of separating queer existence from faith or reflecting on the “radical” act of transparency that comes along with discussing mental health, these two-both as a couple and as individuals-are devoted to candid, collective, and just storytelling. Sitting down with Glennon Doyle and Abby Wambach feels like taking a deep breath.
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